any europeans out there? (from EU)

[Mav]

well, as yall europeans know. elections are this week.

im interested in seeing yalls opinions about the EU, the Euro, and basicly everything.
what will you vote (if you are eligable), or if not eligable, what would you have voted.
and ofcourse explain what the party is about, as we dont know the names

[Mav]

and to set an example, ill start

this is the second election im eligible to vote (first EU parliament)


in The Netherlands the election was today, and i have voted for the SP (socialist party).

what they stand for:

No europe super-continent, where they will decide everything for everyone. Instead european countries work together in subjects that actually are helpful to work together in (trade n stuffs)


Why? I do not think one massive 'europe' is gonna work with all the different cultures and mentalities. These differences will always create frictions, and when you have 1 currency, the natural inflation can no longer occur, and 1 country will drag all the others down. therefor i think the euro should be disbanded, or severely decreased in the amount of countries using it. Also i do not think europe should set rules about agricultural, economical, social etc. subjects, as these are better to be made on smaller scale.


i hope this topic isnt too serious for this forum i am just curious about how politically involved you all are

[Zi;]

EU sucks, what more to say
- Joining EU made or country poorer, so we have to support Greece,Italy,Spain,Portugal with lots of money
- Stupid laws on internet, watching movies/downloading became illegal -_-
- Luckily we didn't confirm ACTA sh.t
- Once good thing that EU does are laws about privacy on internet - yo, come on Google, remove my name from your results
What is different between EU now and USSR 50 years ago?
All swear on USSR that how bad was it etc, but EU wants socialism now, USSR had that 50 years ago and you see result, it just made people f.cking poor.
There are 2 kinds of people in Russia now: poor/rich - nothing between, do you want this?
Russia is 50 years forward before EU

We had one nice ad about this, but that were elections for leaders of Slovakia, you don't need to understand it, video shows enough:


Instead of making average salary higher on Slovakia, our polites are forced by EU to give money to Greece,Italy, banks from abroad, but almost nothing lefts for Slovakia itself then

[Moridin]

I don't really care about politics in any way since I believe it is just one huge shithole with people in it who talk crap about crap and do nothing.

Voting in these European elections does not help one bit since single countries can't change anything.
It's all one big pile of hypocritical bullshit!

[DSnipeFunk]

LETS PUT THIS IN COMPLETELY PRACTICAL TERMS

1. The concept of a unified Europe (in practice) will never work for one reason - soccer. It is the only 'patriotic' thing these days which will keep nations divided.

2. Europe is in an economic crisis. Governments are trying to solve the problem - sometimes by hiking prices, taxes, benefit cuts, etc. Nobody is happy because their pockets are affected (which I understand) but the bottom line is getting the country out of the financial mess that someone put them in, but people don't seem to give a shit about.

3. While citizens are complaining that they don't make enough money, and that they work too hard for what they earn, (considering they come late to work every day and spend half the day playing solitaire or on facebook while at work), they put the country in a deeper mess for each day that they go on strike (in fact going to the mall and buying the latest in technology instead of going to the streets shouting their rights).

4. While the current governments are actually in power and taking decisive measures in getting the country out of this financial mess, opposing parties only focus on the errors of the government in power and finding ways to attribute the blame of the mess to them, instead of providing alternative and better solutions to help the situation. Stuck up asses who think they know better forgetting that the 'democratic' system did not vote for them in the first place.

5. This said, the natural tendency of most unhappy citizens is to vote for another political party thinking they will reduce taxes, restore the benefits, etc. (i.e. benefit their own pockets instead of the situation of the country) - yet, the newly elected political party would not be able to do anything since the fate of the country is in their hands - and they will realize there is no alternative solution but to continue with what the previous government did.

6. If the citizens continue with their unpatriotic ways throughout the crisis, the country fails, and the first thing that will happen is banks would close and everyone will lose their money. Blame the citizens for this for not doing more.

7. When a political party is in power and actually doing something to try and resolve the situation, they should not be replaced. Replacing them in the middle of a 'recovery programme' only disrupts the situation.

8. Regarding the European elections - everyone I see in the photos are kids I never heard of younger than me who know nothing about running or representing a country. I will not vote. I will vote in the national elections (when Prime Ministers are elected). But thats it.

[DoS]

Moridin: Dammit, I couldn´t agree more. *applauds*

Do the Politicians even believe the s*** they proclaim!? I think most actually had big ideas when they started off, but soon noticed how quickly you get bogged down in modern bureaucracy!

Zi;:
- Joining EU made or country poorer, so we have to support Greece,Italy,Spain,Portugal with lots of money
Not much better in Germany, gotta pump Millions into nearly all countries, cause most can´t get a grip of their low economy. Thanks for dragging us down

- Stupid laws on internet, watching movies/downloading became illegal -_-
Wow, I can´t even comment that

- Luckily we didn't confirm ACTA sh.t
Another bulls*** idea, glad you didn´t *applauds* I don´t think we did either

- Once good thing that EU does are laws about privacy on internet - yo, come on Google, remove my name from your results
FFS Google is a search engine, your data isn´t stored on their servers. So much for net neutrality!!! Don´t want stuff landing on Google´s front page? Then pay more attention to what you put on the Internet!

Concerning Russia:
Most Russians think Stalin was a good guy

Personally I won´t go and vote, I voted in all national and regional elections, but I have no idea what our political group´s plans for Europe are and personally most of them don´t either! And none of their "brilliant" ideas ever affect me in a positive way, always some political garbage nobody needs!

F*** no, the idea behind the EU is/was good, but it´s gone completely lost by now.

[Mav]

i see all of you are kinda against the united europe. THEN VOTE. what we saw yesterday, is that everyone who didnt care for europe didnt vote, and now the eurofiles won the election...

SPEAK UP. find out what party is sort of in your way of thinking, and vote for it!


I agree politicians mostly talk crap, but this election is/was a actual election that could change shit in this place. In every country, there is partys claiming a united europe isnt the way to go. in the Netherlands, it was SP, PVV and a few smaller parties. i know in france theres the front national.

If the parties the majorities agree with get into the parliament, europe will finaly slow down ruining the little bit of democracy that is left. so if you are eligible to vote in your country, and the voting is still to come, VOTE. if you dont vote, then you actually agree with the way it is headed

[DSnipeFunk]

Mav - I am not against a united Europe - on the contrary - if Europe is PROPERLY united it can potentially shift the balance of power in the world away from the U.S. It would shut them up for good.

[Mav]

there is no possible way to unite all the different cultures and mentalities... just not possible

[DSnipeFunk]

Very true.
And just to add ... if europe was 'united' u would see europe giving funds to the countries in need ... not as a loan but as a generous gift. You see europe giving billions to serbia cause of the floods .... but they cant give portugal and greece. They only offer them loans at ridiculous interest rates.
And europe is shit now because france and germany negotiated terms of EU to their own benefit. Blame the incompetent negotiators of the other member countries.

[SadamHusein]

Very stupid thread.

[DoS]

DSnipeFunk: Yea, blame it on Germany, why not!?  Always our fault that your economy sucks and can´t keep up with ours

[SadamHusein]

Dont dislike my reply ;( firauni...

[Zi;]

Let's stone him with dislikes!

[DoS]

LMAO Damn SadamHusein you are really farming those dislikes

[Ultrasinan]

DisVille

[SadamHusein]

Haters gonna hate

[Mav]

well, you got what u wanted godfather... u ruined the topic....

[DSnipeFunk]

May 24, 2014 12:49:55 GMT 2 DoS said:

DSnipeFunk: Yea, blame it on Germany, why not!?  Always our fault that your economy sucks and can´t keep up with ours

DoS - while export quotas were increased in Germany and France, export quotas for Portugal, Spain and other member countries were reduced. This is not Germany's fault - this is the fault of the Portuguese and Spanish who negotiated such a lousy deal

[SadamHusein]

I will get cookie? for that

[DSnipeFunk]

No - you will get a knuckle sandwich.

[Giovanni]

In Italy PD win the elections

[Ronald Reagan's dog]

Ha!, did anyone of you really think the eu was going to be what the politicians said?, just like the U.N, the eu just becomes a powerbase by a powerfull country, this case germany, as the U.N Interest, i mean security council of china, russia, U.S and company. Its only natural that stable countries with a powerfull economy take advantage of the rest rather than helping. *flies out as debate begins*

[Zi;]

True about EU:
Makes rich countries richer and poor countries poorer, so France and Germany profit